Interview by Benjamin Fleury-Steiner/Gearsofsand <
How
did you become interested in sound? Where did the name "Alio Die"
come from? How did you develop this persona? It
is probable, as I can remember, that I become interested in sounds for
the first time when I was few months old, and my mother for convince me
to eat when I didn't wanted, usually played with a spoon on some glasses
and bottles around… Than sounds provoked an illuminating feeling of
stupor in me and saying "Aaaa!!" I opened my mouth... by the
way as a child, apart school, I never training with music, I become
interested in listening music later when I was around 16 years old when
I've discovered electronic and new-wave bands like Depeche Mode,
Tuxedomoon and lot of gothic music, then I started to research more
about mostly unknown groups and musicians with ambient/ ethnic
influences, over the limit of the pop/rock song.
Your
music seems to have a very visual element. Where did that come from and
how do you approach visuals when making
sound? Is it a conscious
process or not? I
think that the visual element is a consequence of the musical process,
yes at some level I'm conscious of it when I compose some new music,
nevertheless the attitude is purely intuitive and the concentration is
focused on a kind of adherence with sounds, in order to obtain a special
feeling that the music bring itself . The choose of sounds and the way
they are merged together grows in the process and represent the magic of
the music itself, then the visual quality ,that can be both personal
than objective starts. I call the objective visual quality of music a
kind of pictures in movement that come while I listen and often rest
with me all the night long while I sleep, after I've work on some music
for a while: it is something between waves of colours and sounds and it
is the consequence that the mind don't think anymore it is just
impressed from sounds and massage from them. The personal visual quality
touch another layer of conscious and have something to do with what the
music can evoke but it is in also in relation with the thinking movement
and subject's sensibility: images, natural/ imaginary landscapes,
special feelings, remembering or downright stories… precisely I think
this is related not only to the music, but to the moment we are
listening the music and all our context. Both these qualities are
important in my music and I try, following the muse, to give power and
poetry to them, intuitively as I can. I find an interesting analogy from
the intuitive method I have to compose and the philosophy of the painter
from NY, Yanusz Gilewitz (see "Leaves net's" cover paintings
and his site www.yanusz.com ) that with his VTS (Visual Transmission of
Sound) experience, listen Alio Die's music and organic, quiet and
hypnotizing sounds in general to release his visionary paints, where the
music effectively helps to leave behind the wandering mind and open
hidden channels of the inner self, as well as removing from events in
the immediate reality, so that the artist/medium translate in lines and
colors throw his meditative/active listening at the point that the
painting is then virtually "painted by itself", like he said.
Sara Luciani a painter from Italy have experienced something
similar and have already created different abstract paints, and some of
them will be used on some of my future releases. Visual element in music
is almost an abstract subject, by the way I enjoy to find often, in the
comments of people, in the feeling of paints, or in the reviews that the
evocative message I found in my music is arrived to his destination. Speaking
of visuals, the cover of "Mei-Jyu" is
beautiful. What was it like working with Jack or Jive? Tell me
about the process of making
that album. Were you both influenced by the very
zen theme running through
the music? Do you see a connection to sound
and zen? If so, HOW? Yes,
visuals on covers are also important to give a bridge by another medium,
with the music inside a cd and I like to take care myself with organic,
natural compositions,photos and artwork like I do on Hic Sunt Leones
label and with mostly of Alio Die's cds also on other labels. In the
case of Mei-Jyu it was started from some photos I did, later mounted and
maked up by Sam Rosenthal/ Projekt that printed the album. Speaking
of collaborations, what was it like to
work with Robert Rich?
"Fissures" is such a beautiful album, did it
have an influence on your music since? Thanks
you. Probably you know of the passion of Robert Rich about mushroom
huntings… me, too I'm affected as I was a child from this fever.. so,
when I was in California Robert lived in a small village on the cost and
it was the right time for them, ok actually this is not exactly about
the recording of the album, but I'm sure that being close to a beautiful
environment near the ocean and have occasion to pass lot of time in the
forest together and meet animals like roe-bucks, procyons, birds, have
inspired making the music in some way, too. I've deeply loved the music
by Robert Rich and it was an important step for me to work together, I
had for sure lot of inspiration understanding a bit the way Robert build
up a track and the cure he give to each effects and editing. At that
time my technique was a lot more simple and primitive, by the way the
encounter over "Fissures" was successful. I like to be
influenced from the music I love, as well as mix elements from different
styles of music, in a personal way of course, we work mostly with
different instruments but yes sometimes I can find some very little
Robert's touch here and there on some of my album. While
this obviously a subjective question, I'd be very interested in getting
your perspective on the power of the "drone." Where does its
power come from? Is it a product of both the individual's surroundings
and his/her mind or both? Going further, why do drone music fans tend to
be so fanatical about this music? Is it something that they "get"
that non-drone fans do not understand? Power
of drone bring me back to indian traditional music. Of course not only
indian music have such droning quality, but it is a clear example of a
deep refinement, ancient consciousness about the power of sound, special
tunings, vibrations in relation with feelings and the seasons. It is not
a case if early minimalism La Monte Youngs, Terry Riley, Jon Hassell
were also influenced from indian music. The pure drone in indian music
on which all the music is build, is a tonal sound made by the tampura or
shruti-bux and it is performed for all the length of the concert. I
think drone music today is also related with time and space, feelings,
and that it can open new prospectives, points of views from where
observe and meditate. Power of drone is connected with the capability of
the listener to answer to a special vibration, so it need an open hear
that is not related with the usual concept of rhythmic and melodic
music, it is something over the thinking attitude, and it's close to a
concept of harmony and chaos in relations with the archetypes of the
human perception: sound is directly connected with the pulsation of life
and the states of consciousness... we can feel fascinated how much drone
music can be deep, relaxing or stimulating, more than other kind of
music can induce particular states without needs of any thinking
movement, or imagination, it is an inductive quality itself… although
it is not 'passive' music at all. Works with drones can be truly magic,
when the balance between vibrations become perfect is created a precise
place where it is possible to experience the harmony blending the
repeated and looped sounds. Yes, fans of drone music are sometime very
enthusiastic about it ,while other people don't find it interesting, or
very boring, or irritating; personally I think that the listening
approach of mostly of the people that can't listen at all How
has Alio Die's music evolved over time? Is there any consciouss effort
in the way you make new music that goes on a cd or is it completely
stream of consciousness? Do you hear sounds on colleagues' records that
inspire yout to take new directions when making music? Yes,
if I stop and I try to give a look to my discography i think that my
music is evolved over the time, more in the form that in the spirit, I
can recognise a development of my technical approach and more capability
to related with different atmospheres or long tracks respect to my first
albums. When I'm not in the recording process I listen music usually all
day long, and in this way I've a lot of new stimulations from different
styles, so I suppose I'm influenced from lot of them, when are
assimilated. When I play some music I'm focused on the process and I don't take care to create some original composition, music must always altering so, it is not necessary to think what is Alio Die's sound for make new Alio Die's music… instead, the music come to me when the intuition is follow with cure and I'm tuning in a good way with the material I'm looking to work with. I think that there is a strong consciousness effort in release new music, sometime it is not conscious at all till the music is finished, but I think it is a complex approach where you look to be tuned with sounds but transparent, present, able to experience the development of the music and hear the directions to choose.. there are just some intuitive ideas at the beginning, the concept grows during the process and this happen more easily and tuned with my feeling of harmony, more I don't try to force some ideas in it. For sure there is also some rational ideas or thinking in the creative process but the umpire is always the listening experience. (of course it is possible to work with a theme or an idea from the beginning giving to it the discrimination in the recording session without change too much the method I expressed below) On my last collaborations with Raffaele Serra for two new 5000 Spirits albums (that will be out on HSL in 2006.) I experienced a process like that: I started working on electronic material by Raffaele, and I had to find a way to choose, organize, arrange and mix about seven hours of basic tracks.. after a while listening to the sounds I was disoriented as its were quite different from my usual sounds: very intense, noisy, obsessive sometimes… I tryed to create a journey mixing one track into the other, following punctually the suggested atmospheres and adding other layers in the way to help the glide of sounds.. the music was coming itself to his identity, the result looks original to my hears now and the combinations between our contribute melt organically together.
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